80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   is this normality? or should i look somewhere else?2054d
/163.1.162.5   Oh HECK. I made the censor work randomly 50% of the time so it messed with that guy's mind2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   rubber????!!!!!2054d
/163.1.162.5   Sorry I programmed this thing in its original setting with some "funny" features2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   the next programme on BBC3 is "cyberwar"2054d
/163.1.162.5   Yeah it changed rubber to rubber, as it also changes eszett to diphthong2054d
/163.1.162.5   BBC>3<?2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   BBC2, i meant2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   it changed rubber to rubber? r-r-r-r-ight2054d
/163.1.162.5   LOL you don't know right now... There _is_ a BBC4 in fact2054d
/163.1.162.5   it changed t u n g s t e n to rubber (and just be glad I didn't put my next-gen censorship prog on or it'd mess even _that_ up for me)2054d
/163.1.162.5   I'm gonna allow HTML here2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   can it cange plastic into plastic too?2054d
/163.1.162.5   2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   i know about bbc4, i just don't receive it2054d
/163.1.162.5   Ah, much better2054d
/163.1.162.5   So do you like this chat thing in comparison to Yahoo yet?2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   quick glimpse of r.j.oppenheimer talking about the a-bomb...and now we're onto hackers2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   i've used a number of different chat set-ups now -- i do go onto things like yahoo chat from time to time, and other such2054d
/163.1.162.5   Strange2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   nice ducks. shame about the water2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   is this thing laggy, or is it me?2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   it's probably me, via ntl2054d
/163.1.162.5   The page is 16KB, because it's a 100-cell-long table, so it'll take a little while via dialup2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   they're treating us to a dude in boston who intercepts data-streams from all sorts of sources2054d
/163.1.162.5   Also you'll have to press "refresh" to get new messages (although I've just added a minute-ly auto-refresh)2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   ...and his friends. they call themselves "the L0pht"2054d
/163.1.162.5   auto-refresh doesn't work2054d
/163.1.162.5   Oh - heard of them2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   ah. refresh. 2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   they seem quite competent2054d
/163.1.162.5   is this a modern program or about 5 years old?2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   he's just explained it would take about 30 minutes to bring down the internet for a period of time2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   i haven't seen the copyright on the programme yet, but i'd guess the interview with them at least is old -- maybe mid-'90s?2054d
/163.1.162.5   Yeah I might have seen the same program (but again, forgotten most of the details). I'm SURE the internet is more stable in 2003 than it was in 1995. There have been some attempts recenrly at disabling the backbone servers and they haven't worked because it has a lot of redundancy2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   and now some guys from Rand Corp have described how they'd written an article about the vulnerability of anything depending on the web...2054d
/163.1.162.5   2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   ...and 'someone' came to them and tried to recall all the copies of the magazine, and to classify their work...2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   ...they've stopped writing about it.2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   spot the html-whiz...2054d
/163.1.162.5   Oh that's weird2054d
/163.1.162.5   that wasn't HTML that was an automatically generated smiley from the chars ( ° ) >2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   it was obviously one of the 'black-suit' brigade2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   ah2054d
/163.1.162.5   How much do you believe is that 'men in black' stuff?2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   what do you mean?2054d
/163.1.162.5   Well I dunno. Sometimes you see people on TV programmes like the one you're watching talking about "someone" coming around and suppressing them somehow2054d
/163.1.162.5   and I wondered how much of that you attribute to them being cranks and how much you believe2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   well, i am quite sure that NSA-types would lean on someone if they thought that person was publishing something that would 'give away' info that the government hoped no one had noticed2054d
/163.1.162.5   hmm yeah I suppose2054d
/163.1.162.5   BRB2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   the people on here don't seem to be cranks for the most part. they're being quite balanced on the whole. a number of them are academics in fields of computers, some are historians2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   ok2054d
/163.1.162.5   My problem right now is that I'm most alert at around 1-2am 2054d
/163.1.162.5   And so I'm rather out-of-sync2054d
/163.1.162.5   I'll have done nothing all day and as soon as it gets towards the evening (in today's instance) I make that galaxies thing and then spoontaneously do THIS.2054d
/163.1.162.5   in about 5x less time than I would have if I'd tried it during the daytime. But the downside is I can't get up in the mornings and have missed most if not all of this week's lectures so far2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   OK -- well, i need to get some sleep tonight myself. i've been out a few nights this week looking at stars2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   btw the programme was 19972054d
/163.1.162.5   Ah right - I thought it either aired first on C4 or BBC2 (at least the one I saw did)2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   there were a spate of things on cyber security in the late '90s...2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   i was just on yahoo IM answering your post there too2054d
/163.1.162.5   Hi again2054d
80.7.136.60/62.254.128.5   hide-and-seek in chat-space. oh joy.2054d
/163.1.162.5   BTW I haven't anything between #85 and #90 for you on Yahoo 2054d
/137.222.10.58   eek2053d
/163.1.162.5   {John you f00l I now know your IP address}2053d
/137.222.10.58   eek2053d
/137.222.10.58   im so scared2053d
/137.222.10.58   im not even running a firewall2053d
/137.222.10.58   2053d
/137.222.10.58   2053d
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/163.1.162.5   dum-de-dum2034d
/163.1.162.5   Hello Matthew2034d
/163.1.162.5   Oh FOUL it's giving us both the same IP address?2034d
/163.1.162.5   but of course2034d
/163.1.162.5   we're both connecting through alastair's lovely NAT thingyt2034d
/163.1.162.5   ooh, pretty colours2034d
/163.1.162.5   Alastair's buggered up whatever that NAT thing is2034d
/163.1.162.5   Can I do strong emphasis?2034d
/163.1.162.5   Why?2034d
/163.1.162.5   It used to be the case that my IP detection algorithm detected both the original computer's IP and the IP of a proxy2034d
/163.1.162.5   Too many computers in college to have 1 outside IP each, so we're all going through one computer to outside world2034d
/163.1.162.5   it's not a proxy2034d
/163.1.162.5   But no, I've had some e-mails doing strange things, including "Cannot resolve host nat-kludge-coz-alastair-cant-face-subnet-swap.trinity.ox.ac.uk"2034d
/163.1.162.5   that's the hostname for 163.1.162.52034d
/163.1.162.5   Yeah OK it's a router then...2034d
/163.1.162.5   But anyway, on a sensible LAN I'd've thought you'd have a local (internal) IP for the lan and then an internet IP for the router2034d
/163.1.162.5   Which is what my script _used_ to pick up 2034d
/163.1.162.5   it can't do that, internal IPs mustn't be picked up on the outside, too risky and silly - and you could still have doubles with two different people on different internal networks2034d
/163.1.162.5   Yeah but it raises the question, how can external web services find a unique ID for you?2034d
/163.1.162.5   Cookies are one way, but they're really foul in my opinion...2034d
/163.1.162.5   (And also this makes it REALLY TOUGH to run any sort of server here. Of course Alastair doesn't want that in this instance, but it's not good in general)2034d
/163.1.162.5   technically, servers probably break the IT thing we signed, cookies/session ID in URI is about the only way2034d
/163.1.162.5   or a digital certificate2034d
/163.1.162.5   2034d
/163.1.162.5   Hmm session ID isn't a bad idea. The other way is to have a database and get users to register I suppose2034d
/163.1.162.5   bye2034d
213.105.148.87/62.254.128.5   i'm not sure how i got here...1712d
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