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CADkindaGUY 2003-04-09 14:21:00 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- v4.3 works really fine! Upload seems also to be working but I only get a funny message: "New version v4.21b is available from the website! (You are using v4.3) Programm now reads from previous results properly and sending while offline is corrected. *drivelingformuon1viewresults.exe* ---------------------------------------- I'm getting the same popup when it autosends results. |
Stephen Brooks 2003-04-09 15:11:19 | Oops. Well I've just realised I need to get a file from work (the security module, so not on the webdrive) in order to recompile and fix this error. For now I think I'll try uploading a new version-signal manually that will hopefully correct this bug. ----- OK, that's fixed now, although the error box will now say "v4.3 download available from website!" so I think I better link up the HTML page to the new version (which I can now do as stats updates have temporarily been stopped). Today's weather in %region is Sunny/(null), max. temperature -99999°C |
TheFinalLoser 2003-04-10 01:25:44 | when do the new stats(v4.3) appear? "So the last will be first, and the first will be last." Mt.20:16 |
Stephen Brooks 2003-04-10 13:43:13 | Bah. I was nearly there with the new stats generator when a completely inexplicable (and rather untracable) memory bug appeared. I'll try again this weekend and hopefully will get it running again. ----- On further thought, I suspect this is a buffer over-run error, where someone's name caused a string to go outside the 100 bytes I allocated for it. That sort of thing has unlimited capacity to arse up future events. Today's weather in %region is Sunny/(null), max. temperature -99999°C [This message was edited by Stephen Brooks on 2003-Apr-11 at 9:02.] |
Bill[Romulus2] 2003-04-10 17:43:13 | Does this mean I didn't really submit my last results 113755 days ago? |
Stephen Brooks 2003-04-11 03:23:27 | quote: You can download it from the page now. No readme to tell you where to put it (i.e. inside the Muon1 install dir where results.dat is) as yet - I'll update that in v4.31 when I package the two together in the same download. Today's weather in %region is Sunny/(null), max. temperature -99999°C |
[DPC] White Panther 2003-04-11 15:42:50 | until when can you upload results from version 4.21b? mooh mooh |
Stephen Brooks 2003-04-12 03:49:24 | I'm accepting both for now (all the way back to v4.0x in fact). I can update both sets of statistics for quite a while to come. Today's weather in %region is Sunny/(null), max. temperature -99999°C |
David 2003-04-15 08:13:26 | quote: This is true only if the distribution is symmetrical, surely? I wonder how good this assumption is for low probabilities. |
Stephen Brooks 2003-04-15 11:21:02 | The distributions of interest here are all very-nearly normal, so it is symmetrical enough. When the percentage transfer (p) is low, the distribution Binomial(n,p) (n=number of particles) can't be approximated to a normal curve so well, but I don't really care about low-transfer designs so much. If you still don't believe that my method works, I did a numerical experiment with Binomial(20000,p) for various p and got it to print out the numbers of trials that came out above and below the expected mean (=20000*p) for 1000 trials at each percentage.n=20000 p=0.500000: 493 below 501 aboveThis shows that it's near enough 50-50 down to p=0.001 (i.e. 0.1% transfer), and then below that you get more like two-thirds falling below the expected mean. If I was serious about getting accurate percentages below the 0.1% level, I'd need a lot more particles and the optimisation would be that much slower. For comparison the best designs are above 5% now. Today's weather in %region is Sunny/(null), max. temperature -99999°C |
Bill[Romulus2] 2003-04-15 16:01:18 | They're above 5% already? Sheesh, I haven't exceeded 2% yet. I need a smarter computer |
Flumsi 2003-04-15 19:30:02 | quote: Yes i have one at 5.69%. You dont need a smarter Computer, you need a better results.dat File. @Stephen Upload the Best 250 Results please and Start Statistic Greez Flumsi |
David 2003-04-16 15:51:07 | quote: Oh, I wasn't disbelieving, really - I had been a bit concerned that the new method might slow the rate at which the initial climb occurred, but both your figures (snipped from the above) and a bit of thought makes me realise that this thought was bogus. |
Stephen Brooks 2003-04-16 16:05:27 | quote: That's OK. I only "overreacted" with a numerical experiment because I've had trouble with statisticians arguing about this project in the past, and there's a certain sort that won't go away unless you give them some sort of scientific proof...! The initial climb is an interesting phase - really it needs a different sort of scoring to the rest. If I were to start a really _difficult_ optimisation where initially no particles at all would get through the whole thing 99.9999999999% of the time, a better scoring would be something to do with how far the furthest particles got. Then if you have a _few_ particles (much less than sqrt(number in simulation orignally)) getting through, the statistics aren't all that nice and really I'd want a sort of trade-off from the distance-scoring to my current system. But I'll burn those bridges when I come to them (or something ). Today's weather in %region is Sunny/(null), max. temperature -99999°C |
ZeonX[OCAU] 2003-04-21 18:02:25 | this thread has sorta changed from the original topic but can i be on the mailing list. Could you use muon@mega-reviews.com. Thanks. |
BOHICASETI 2003-04-22 09:26:47 | I would like to be tagged for the mailing list also please. Thanks Friends help friends move.... REAL friends help friends move dead bodies. |
ZeRoC00L 2003-06-19 12:58:54 | As 4.31c is at the max. (13,xx %), any news about a newer version ?? |