stephenbrooks.orgForumMuon1GeneralGHz Benchmarking
 Stephen Brooks2002-07-09 08:31:33 I was thinking it would be interesting to have a project-average-GHz report on the stats page like there was for the version 3.x project.  However I need a few people to be able to tell me how many results their v4.1x programs get in a certain period of time.The three figures I need are R (number of results calculated), T (time taken to calculate them) and S (speed of computer in GHz).  It may also be useful if you say whether you've got an Athlon or P4 or whatever.I'll first calculate a "GHz-seconds per result" figure for each person, which will be X=S*T/(R+0.5) where the 0.5 is because the program might have been part-way through a unit when the run finished, and on average half-way.  Then I'll average all those figures together to get an overall indicator of the number of seconds at 1GHz it takes to do a muon unit.  Alternatively I could evaluate X=sum{S*T}/sum{R+0.5} with sums over all people, which would be a bit more accurate I think.  Anyway, once I've got that I'll look at the number of results returned in the last (e.g.) 7 days and work out(results returned in that time period)*X/(seconds in 7 days)....to give the average speed in GHz."As every 11-year-old kid knows, if you concentrate enough Van-der-Graff generators and expensive special effects in one place, you create a spiral space-time whirly thing, AND an interesting plotline"[This message was edited by Stephen Brooks on 2002-Jul-16 at 12:16.] Pascal2002-07-09 09:32:50 Hi Stephen,on my first computer (Athlon Thunderbird C (1,2 GC/s, 256 MB DDR-RAM, Via Apollo 266 Pro)the client version 4.1 needed 16 minutes for one work unit (i.e. 20936 particles).On my second PC (Intel Pentium 3, 600 MC/s, 256 MB SDRAM, Intel BX Chipset) the client - version 3.11 - needed 27 minutes for one work unit (i.e. 20936 particles).This week I'll have a look at version 4.12 on my PCs.  Perhaps later or tomorrow I'll tell you more.___________________________1: Athlon TB-C, 1.2 GC/s, 256 MB DDR-RAM, Erazor xÂ², ADSL-Flatrate, NIC Intel, Win 98 SE Mainboard MSI-6380 Rev.  12: Pentium III, 600 MC/s, 256 MB RAM, NIC Intel, Win 98 SE
 Frank2002-07-09 11:23:49 Hi Stephen,on my computer (Dual Athlon MP (1,6 GHz (1900+), 1024 MB DDR-RAM, ASUS A7M266) the client version 4.1 needed app.11 minutes for two work units .(2xMuon1_background.exe )There is something wrong with my results: 13 Frank von Siebenthal 6538 Units 93`814`359 Particles?  136'879'568 is correct.Perhaps you can correct this.Greetings from SwitzerlandMy System:DualAthlon MP 1900+, 1024 MB DDR-RAM, Gforce3 Ti500, ADSL-Flatrate, Win XP Pro, Mainboard ASUS A7M266D, Promise Raid 280GB (CPU's & GPU Watercooled )
 Pascal2002-07-09 11:34:03 Hi Frank,where ecatly do you come from?  Soon I want to start a job in Switzerland.  Tell me your location and perhaps your email address.  Thx.___________________________1: Athlon TB-C, 1.2 GC/s, 256 MB DDR-RAM, Erazor xÂ², ADSL-Flatrate, NIC Intel, Win 98 SE Mainboard MSI-6380 Rev.  12: Pentium III, 600 MC/s, 256 MB RAM, NIC Intel, Win 98 SE
 gogomaus2002-07-09 13:32:48 IÂ´m using the famous ALDI-PC edition autumn 2000.Intel P-III 900 MHz; 128 MB SDRAM; OS WinMe.Overnight measurements of muon1v411 background.exe lead to 28 minutes per result run.  (v412 seems to operate at same rate since yesterday).Looks like I have chances for getting the "slow moving award"... As I stop muon-calculations while manualsending, enjoying PC-games or during longer absences, calculations from last 7 days results coming in, will lead to lower "effective" speed.
 Stephen Brooks2002-07-09 14:25:33 I've removed the rot from Frank's results so they should be OK next tim I upload the stats.gogomaus, can you tell me the total number of units you did overnight and the total amount of time?  That way I get a more accurate figure.Current figures are about 1100 GC/result (GC=gigacycles, as per Pascal's sig).  gogomaus is an outlier at 1512 GC/result whereas Pascal's 2nd machine got the lowest with 972 GC/result.  I'd like more information on overnight runs though - i.e. total time and total number of results."As every 11-year-old kid knows, if you concentrate enough Van-der-Graff generators and expensive special effects in one place, you create a spiral space-time whirly thing, AND an interesting plotline" kruemi [Swissteam.NET]2002-07-10 01:05:16 quote:Originally posted by Frank: Greetings from Switzerland Wow, one more from switzerland... But arn't you in the swissteam?Just visit http://www.swissteam.net and join us.  byekruemi-- Don't read this.  And neither this! masel2002-07-10 09:21:17 On my PC i need 13-14 min per Workunit(20936 Particles).PC: XP 1600+ (1.4 GHz), Win 98SE, 512 MB DDR-Ram, K7S5a gogomaus2002-07-10 14:52:31 I did those calculations repeatedly in the past, but unfortunately that sheet with my notes has been abused by my daughter meanwhile; she definitely needed it much more than me...Depending on parameter sets I had minimum record at 14 minutes and maximum of 34 minutes (if my memory is working o.k.)But I have a perfect protocol of last night : Starting at 00:10 (my PC clock) background-v412 ran for 37 unit (time stamp of explorer, so no 0.5 units have to be added) at 18:31. My poor brain would calculate 29.5 minutes per unit.I just manualsent them in.Those were computed without any other task running on the PC, config set to L.I will try another day with priority Normal/High. kruemi [Swissteam.NET]2002-07-10 23:11:35 Ok: using the timestams and the real-calculating-time (from the taskmanager) my muon1_background made 14 Units in 13h50min (timestamp of file, no 0.5 units needed to add)It's a PentiumII 450MHz, about 1 unit per hour byekruemi-- Don't read this.  And neither this! Stephen Brooks2002-07-11 09:14:14 A pattern is emergingI've just realised that Pascal's 600MHz machine figure was quoted with v3.11, which is substantially faster than 4.1x because it is calculating a different thing.  With that removed, the Athlon results in gigacycles/unit arePascal's 1st machine: 1152Frank's dual processors: 1056masel's result: 1134The remaining valid P-III results for 4.x aregogomaus run #1: 1512gogomaus run #2: 1607kruemi's benchmark: 1601 (actually a P-II)So the Athlons appear to get about 40% more numerical calculation out of each clockcycle than the pentiums!  (1100 vs. 1550ish Gcycles needed)"As every 11-year-old kid knows, if you concentrate enough Van-der-Graff generators and expensive special effects in one place, you create a spiral space-time whirly thing, AND an interesting plotline" gogomaus2002-07-11 11:59:31 And here is another confirmation from todays measurement.V412-background with config = N(ormal) crunched 45 units in 20h 36min.If IÂ´m right, this would mean 27.5 minutes per unit or in your GC-world :1236*60/45*0.9 = 1483 GC per unit.Next shopping time I should prefer Athlon processor !?!
 pben2002-07-11 15:42:48 I did 70 trials in 8hours 38 on a Dual Athlon 1.2Ghz, (two copies of the backgound progam).I am have major problems with Win2k right now, either the new video card, the warm weather, or the phase of the moon.  Good thing I got SuSE 8.0 installed, so I know it is Bill G fault and not my hardware.
 Mikeydz2002-07-15 17:38:34 17 hours, 50 minutes73 resultsAthlon 1.4gh Pascal2002-07-18 08:40:53 Client V4.13 background on 1st machine (Athlon TB-C, 1,2 GC/s, FSB 266 GC/s, 256 MB DDR-RAM)41 results in 630 minthat is 15,4 min per result___________________________1: Athlon TB-C, 1.2 GC/s, 256 MB DDR-RAM, Erazor xÂ², ADSL-Flatrate, NIC Intel, Win 98 SE Mainboard MSI-6380 Rev.  12: Pentium III, 600 MC/s, 256 MB RAM, NIC Intel, Win 98 SE HETTATLONGUN2002-07-19 10:20:27 R (results calculated, 12 hour period): 36.T (time taken to calculate): 12 hours.S (speed of processor): 900MHz Athlon.AMD Athlon 900MHz (200MHz FS (Socket A), 512MB PC133 SDRAM, Windows ME.I am using version 4.13.I started the muon_1 background program at 18 July 2002, 21:05 hrs and ended the program at 19 July 2002, 09:05 Hours.  Only application running was muon 1.A total of 36 results were produced.
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